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What is your favorite firearm

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  • David RohrerDavid Rohrer Posts: 851 Pool Expert
    edited November 2017
    LOL, i was afk for a bit, sorry (SQUIRREL!!! :D ). Glad you've at least gotten the experience to clay shoot (the both of you :) ). I have some vid of my sister and cousin, and both those ladies can do the dang thing too when it comes to clay shooting! Was proud of them both :) My sister also hit the pie plate target on a hay bale at 45yds with the crossbow, nearly dead center. I take solace in knowing my dad's lessons in it weren't lost on her either ;)

    Yes Unexploded Ordnance, the civilian version of EOD is what i went to school for in 2012. I'm 40hr HAZWOPER cert'd also, and up until last year was keeping HAZWOPER 8hr refresher and physical current as a "just in case" but my divorce became final and well my dogs are more important to me than travel for $$. I can make $$ here ;) I own my own company and have much more freedom and time for my life this way and have that as a "backup" if necessary on the resume.

    But in 2011, on a work travel trip to Parris Island USMCRD, and staying the Holiday Inn there in Beaufort SC (no i DIDN'T join the marines and go to Parris Is, but i DID stay at a Holiday Inn last night :D lol ), i met this guy that did UXO, while sitting in the bar at the hotel after hours. I was being my normal self and cracking jokes at this and that, as discussions arose and on the patio outside smoking he asked about my background,etc and i became enamored with the concept of employment doing something so incredibly fun sounding ( i mean come on, you know you asked to hear it so it intrigued you too :D ). I ended up "winning a lottery" if you will through his website in early 2012 and wasn't working for that company i was doing the work travel trips anymore and it seemed like a God send. Went to TX to school for UXO and did two solid weeks of demolition. One non-electric means (time fuse, to blasting caps) and one via modern electrical detonation (shock tube, and radio transmitted wired and wireless ignition sources). It was with several "means" of explosives but we won't go into those details as they're not as exciting and you wouldn't know what i was talking about and we'd both end up on some list. me for saying it and you for googling it, lol :D just know that from ear to ear, i was grinning for two solid weeks. ESPECIALLY after i heard that because on our last day of electric demo week, and because our class was largest ever through that school at once (by at least 4 more students per class ratio), we did some multi-shot blasts (3 ppl simultaneously holding their wireless ignition devices (fingers NOT on the bang switch!! :D ) while one is screaming FIRE IN THE HOLE, FIRE IN THE HOLE, FIRE IN THE HOLE and then detonating on the instructor's "finger wag" go sign) and as a result of those multi-shot blasts we got a call from the STATE headquarters for Emergency i think in Austin or something, like 40 some miles away, saying they felt the tremors and it registered on their richter meters, lol :D yeah, i did that LOL :D Did 200 hours of school but 2 weeks of demo. The rest was ordnance identification and location (magnetometers) and testing, lol.
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  • Nanny OggNanny Ogg Growing Old DisgracefullyPosts: 10,890 Pool Forum Veteran
    LOL sounds like you had a blast David ( see what I did there ? Sorry couldn't resist :D )
  • COOLOCKERCOOLOCKER Secluder.Posts: 3,801 Pool Champion
    Dave, that UXO is some serious chit my man. I know that it can go assend up sometimes, so really knowing your stuff is a godsend when it comes to doing it right. I have watched the videos on youtube where they get experts in and go through the whole process for the cameras, and still **** it up. lol.

    A demolitions expert is something i would probably have done if i was resident there, but unfortunately, most things that have to be blown up here have already been blown up, lol.

    Just as a friendly question, can you answer my query about an over and under in my last post? My question was (not in actual words, but in intention) is an over and under shotgun a beginners shotgun? I dont know the answer, but i got the feeeling it was?
  • David RohrerDavid Rohrer Posts: 851 Pool Expert
    edited November 2017
    COOLOCKER wrote: »
    Dave, that UXO is some serious chit my man. I know that it can go assend up sometimes, so really knowing your stuff is a godsend when it comes to doing it right. I have watched the videos on youtube where they get experts in and go through the whole process for the cameras, and still **** it up. lol.

    A demolitions expert is something i would probably have done if i was resident there, but unfortunately, most things that have to be blown up here have already been blown up, lol.

    Just as a friendly question, can you answer my query about an over and under in my last post? My question was (not in actual words, but in intention) is an over and under shotgun a beginners shotgun? I dont know the answer, but i got the feeeling it was?

    yep, was getting to that. An over and under is the term given to a "double barrel" that is TYPICALLY two different calibers given the one over the other design (over/under ;) ). A "double barrel" is just generally RECOGNIZED as the side by side configuration because it is the most seen configuration with the term "double barrel". Obviously they both are it's the configuration that is what dictates the terminology from manufacturers. An over and under, especially in the case you spoke of can be the same caliber as in two 12ga. rounds, just like side by side "double barrels" are mostly in that caliber. My first shotgun experiences were with both configs of "double barrels", an over and under black powder 10ga shotgun and a side by side black powder 10ga. The shells for those, compared to a modern 12ga would make you think they are more like a cannon gauge , lol. I was about 10, and my grandpa let me "try it" because i was so persistent and he knew i'd shot with dad's coaching already (we'll get to THAT in a sec.....lol). He stood behind me, with his big bear arm wrapped around and his giant hand in front of mine on the forearm stock of it and told me to put it against my shoulder, and carefully aim as i'd been taught and when i was ready to slowly squeeze the trigger while holding aim on target and little did i know he'd stepped to side from behind me but still holding forearm so when it kicked my little @rse back about 5ft onto the ground, he was still holding the shotgun and laughing his head off :D now........back to dad and already having been coached in shooting......when i was 5, yes FIVE, dad swears i was 6 or 7 and in 1st or 2nd grade but i clearly remember being in my kindergarten teacher's class with bruised (EVERYTHING :D ) shoulder the next few days. My dad and his Air Force rifle shooting team buddies were on our farm at that time, in Ohio. We had like 10 or 12 acres and it was long narrow field so perfect rifle range. Also sloped downwards the entire way to a creek and wooded area and sloped back up through woods to farmland on other side. Anyway, like with grandpa i was NAGGING my father to LET ME SHOOT. Against his buddies' better advice he was like "no, i got this, he can do it, sit on down there on the picnic table bench". He put two sandbags up on the table as a rifle rest and had me shoulder the m1 Garand (.30-06 caliber, just bigger than .308 or british .303 ). Like grandpa, he had his had on forearm grip and like grandpa wasn't behind me like i thought and when i pulled that trigger on that M1 i flew from a sitting position, leaning forward with everything in order in the target in my sight.............to flat on my back and OHHH WHAT A PRETTY BLUE SKY!!! about 3ft back from the picnic table bench but when i look at my father is he concerned? no.....he's holding his precious rifle and he and his buddies are just having a ball with laughing at me, lol :D i can laugh at it now but i remember as little as i was, my little conniving brain was plotting revenge. i was livid that he let me hit the ground but "saved the rifle" LOL :D
  • COOLOCKERCOOLOCKER Secluder.Posts: 3,801 Pool Champion
    Wow, great explanation Dave, and one that brings me to my next question. You mention a double barrel, but i seem to remember a single barrel, with over and under. Am i right in assuming this?

    As for the kick back, i do and will always remember the the slightly swollen bottom lip from the kick back from that gun. I was told, hold the **** into the shoulder, grip it tight, look down the barrel, sight it, and squeeze it. And when i say slightly swollen lip, i might just be exagerating, lol.
  • David RohrerDavid Rohrer Posts: 851 Pool Expert
    To this day, the only two things i've shot that can compare to that 10ga shotgun kick though (WAY worse than the M1, lol) is a .50cal rifle (both modern, and a black powder) and then my single barrel, single shot 12ga shotgun, with a "pumpkin ball" (standard round slug shot).....that will leave a small framed person possibly with a cracked collar bone or shoulder, lol. But it will knock a 200+ lb deer on it's **** like NOW and it DOESN'T get back up ;) I made that mistake from elevated in a treestand once.....first time i ever shot one of those pumpkin balls and didn't make a vital shot and also first time ever shot from elevated position......HOLY cow.....it almost knocked me clean off my stand and when i climbed down to retrieve the buck (little racked but big bodied 4pointer, again, can't eat the horns :D ) i saw that it wasn't a vital shot but that slug hit his SPINE and severed the nerve and broke the spine and it killed him... wow! anyway, those kick like a donkey! lol if anyone ever asks if you wanna shoot a slug shot and it's in a single barrel single shot shotgun you had BETTER say no, nan, lol.
  • COOLOCKERCOOLOCKER Secluder.Posts: 3,801 Pool Champion
    Just thinking back now Dave. it could have been a double barrel with one barrel sitting straight above the other barrel, not like side by side?
  • David RohrerDavid Rohrer Posts: 851 Pool Expert
    yeah, that would be an "over and under" (but technically still double barreled right ? ;) ) again, terminology to more easily recognize the firearm being spoken of is why they call them one or the other. It could have been a benelli if you were sport clay shooting they are popular, and Ithica brand too for that.
  • COOLOCKERCOOLOCKER Secluder.Posts: 3,801 Pool Champion
    yeah, that would be an "over and under" (but technically still double barreled right ? ;) ) again, terminology to more easily recognize the firearm being spoken of is why they call them one or the other. It could have been a benelli if you were sport clay shooting they are popular, and Ithica brand too for that.

    Sport clay is more than probably the right assumption Dave, as it was for fun in a forest. Thanks for the info my man, cheers.
  • SunidhifanSunidhifan Earthbound....Posts: 6,412 Pool Forum VIP
    edited November 2017
    , but i DID stay at a Holiday Inn last night :D lol ),

    I thought those great benefits were only achievable at Holiday Inn Express....?

    LOL...if one is to believe commercials.... :D :D


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  • G11gamingG11gaming Rock out :BPosts: 4,555 Pool Champion
    An UZI.... man they are so hip. B)
  • SilentR4ySilentR4y Machismo Town Posts: 2,460 Pool Champion
    I can't believe something like this can actually make the news
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  • Nanny OggNanny Ogg Growing Old DisgracefullyPosts: 10,890 Pool Forum Veteran
    Is that someones' idea of a joke ? And the media saw fit to print it ? Pretty sick of both of them tbh
  • Nanny OggNanny Ogg Growing Old DisgracefullyPosts: 10,890 Pool Forum Veteran
    At least some of the authorities and some media in the US are refusing to put a name to these murderers now, I wish all media would do the same and starve them of the publicity they seek.
  • SilentR4ySilentR4y Machismo Town Posts: 2,460 Pool Champion
    edited November 2017
    Nanny Ogg wrote: »
    Is that someones' idea of a joke ? And the media saw fit to print it ? Pretty sick of both of them tbh

    No, it's real screenshot from their short-video on twitter, here's the original message


    I know where they get this chainsaw idea though
  • David RohrerDavid Rohrer Posts: 851 Pool Expert
    SilentR4y wrote: »
    I can't believe something like this can actually make the news
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    Nanny Ogg wrote: »
    Is that someones' idea of a joke ? And the media saw fit to print it ? Pretty sick of both of them tbh

    It just proves how absurd and vastly out of touch the people who spew these things are (see, i didn't even label anyone a political stance, just PEOPLE who think/say these things). What's next a turnip twaddler? LOL, no that's not violent enough.......hmmm, a jackhammer!!! :D This "news" he shared though, is a couple weeks old at least. It really was shown in that light as a "viable report" after that incident...... and the woefully inept attempts at sounding intelligent in the aftermath of the Aurora shootings especially were pathetic at best, and Sandy Hook, demonizing the "Bushmaster" and the terminologies they were using , trying to sound like subject matter experts and looking/sounding like buffoons instead. Part of Journalism is credible reports and eyewitnesses and testimonies, which we haven't seen in THAT type of journalism in quite some time but they aren't interested in asking ACTUAL subject matter experts because that doesn't fit the narrative and touchy feely sensation trying to be passed along in their "reporting".

    The full truth still isn't coming to light and it may never will in my lifetime, of the Vegas incident either. ANYONE with a BRAIN and two working cells in it who was watching/listening to reporting on it that evening, watched the story change direction and narrative multiple times. A LOT of the "official story" now being offered just doesn't make sense ESPECIALLY if you were watching the live reporting and listened to ANYONE WHO WAS THERE's testimonies afterwards and in many many a video on youtube that survived their mass efforts to delete them as they hit the internet....... I knew what i watched on the news reports and subsequent videos (some that i saw just before being deleted when i went to show others.....) and i've grown up as i've told you around weapons my entire life. I've been on rifle ranges, pistol ranges, "special" ranges, and i live in the mountains. I understand what a "report" of a shot that is fired does and how it echoes sometimes 4 to 6 seconds away off another "holler". At first, i was defending the "one shooter" narrative because i honestly thought that second (and possibly third) "position" i heard fire from in the distance after the one CLOSEST to the cab driver was the REPORT, echoing off the layout of other hotels/casinos/buildings at some distance away. Then i noticed that although some appear to be that, the echo had more shots, or faster burst rate (bumpstock is not an even cyclic rate it's a force dependent rate i believe) than the one closest in audible range on the vids. Point being is there is a CONSCIENTIOUS effort to villainize CIVILIAN weapon ownership for the only logical reason of confiscation, and it's being done at the expense of innocent lives. There MAY also possibly be other nefarious "goings on" that these may be masking. There are reports the Vegas incident was a Govt "3 letter organization" gun sting operation that went HORRIBLY wrong and would confirm the multiple shooter theory, and answer some other interesting questions like if ONE man shot over 1000 rounds from ONE hotel room, first how is he laying in his own blood but there is a shell that is CLEAN, laying on TOP of the blood spilled from his skull. He kept firing after dead? Another important question, why ONE shell there, if over 1000 were fired. there should be a PILE. There will be some lateral spread as he was "spraying" IF that were the case but it would still be a general "pile" in a concentric arc from that 'firing position'. There are, as i said a LOT of things that don't add up. Why would ONE man, need SO MANY RIFLES if he had ammunition enough for the one or even three we'll say, for barrel heat compensation.....???? USE YOUR HEADS folks :wink: when/if it doesn't sit right or sound right, it probably isn't. Stay frosty! Don't believe everything they "report" to you. They've already proven some of the things we thought were history were just his story :wink:
  • Nanny OggNanny Ogg Growing Old DisgracefullyPosts: 10,890 Pool Forum Veteran
    Actually what you describe vis-a-vis the media and their so-called reporting is one of my biggest bugbears LOL

    It doesn't matter whether it's liberal or conservative press they all spin the news to their own agendas instead of just simply stating the facts.

    It's hardly surprising there is such a large number of people going down the "conspiracy theory" route when it's nigh on impossible to get a totally unbiased and impartial news report anywhere.

    When Trump and his cronies cry "fake news" they are not wrong, they are just wrong in thinking it's only the news from the left or the liberals that is skewed.
    If the media didn't spin everything maybe the public would not have lost trust in them.
    Some journalists cry about the abuse they get from the public yet they can't see that it's their own fault for trying to "make" news instead of just reporting it.

    How many time have we seen interviewers trying to steer someone into saying something controversial just to generate headlines ?
    Reporters should do their job properly and just report, but they are too busy trying to make a name for themselves as if they were some sort of celebrity in their own right.
    When reporters are doing TV interviews the camera invariably pans back and forth between the interviewer and the interviewee, I just wish someone would tell those reporters that we don't care what they look like and we don't care who they are... they are not the news LOL
  • TetsumonchiTetsumonchi Forum Moderator ScotlandPosts: 1,458 mod
    edited November 2017
    We don't have firearms in Scotland, except sporting rifles and shotguns with a special permit.

    Handguns were freely available until our first and only school shooting in the mid-90's, which caused everything to change.
  • David RohrerDavid Rohrer Posts: 851 Pool Expert
    Hi Tetsumonchi. So do you hunt or sport shoot? If so (or even if not) what's your favorite firearm or do you have one? I've always been partial to the old warhorse in pistols, the Colt 1911A1 .45cal.
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  • COOLOCKERCOOLOCKER Secluder.Posts: 3,801 Pool Champion
    Man, i must be getting old in my slow age.....or something, lol. Forgot i had this, and i made it ages ago. This is my favourite gun:

































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