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How do you top the league easily?

BurgoBurgo Posts: 7 New Member
Hi, I am currently level 27 in gold league but i never seem to have any hope of topping the league! In the current competition, there are 81 hours left and someone has over 1B weekly winnings! Also I have 185k currentlyc2p2xonbbmha.png
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  • SunidhifanSunidhifan Earthbound....Posts: 6,405 Pool Forum VIP
    edited August 2017
    IMO...nothing worth doing can be, or is done 'easily'....you have to work for what you want....

    To top your league, you would probably have to play every single day for 12 hours a day at minimum, playing at a very high level of play (win percentage) in high-end tiers (greatest rewards in shiny golden fecal matter and VR Cash).... :|
    If for any reason, you are unable to commit and perform at that level of playtime and skill, you will probably not accomplish your mentioned goal..... ;)

    In which case you might want to reconsider your game goals in a differing manner/direction..... :*

    But that is just my opinion of course....best of luck in whichever goals you attempt.... :)


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  • Carlos TalesCarlos Tales Posts: 1,467 Pool Champion
    I disagree with Sun. (Not for the first time LOL). Only the Diamond league is relatively difficult to win and would require at least 10 billion winnings to even compete. But as for the other leagues they can be won far more easily if you can increase your winnings quick enough to play at least the Paris tier.

    Yes from your example it's unlucky you have a die hard gamer who's reached 1b from a new account in 4 days. That is rare to see in the gold league.

    My best tip for you to win the platinum league next week providing you can win at least 50% of your games would be to start playing (log in for the first time) half way through the week. You will be placed in a new league from the day you first log in. Then start playing Dubai and go to Paris as early as possible.

    I won the platinum league once by playing 2 games in Paris. I only levelled up once so the following week I was still In platinum and able to do it again. I did this over a few weeks and soon had over 500 pool cash

  • VijayGunnersVijayGunners Posts: 879 Pool Expert
    edited August 2017
    I recently won the league twice on my alternative account to win pool cash, I only needed about 700m to win 100 notes last week and even less the first time around to win 50.

    1b winnings is quite high for that league usually, I'd normally wait it out and not level up to play the same league again next week.

    As for the levels I played, it was typically Dubai/Shanghai until I made a few more million and then I played Paris/Bangkok and even Seoul if needed.

    You get days where somebody will come out of nowhere and top the league so I usually wait until mid week to see what I need to reach and keep within distance and then take a big lead on Sunday evening.


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    Keep within distance and then smash it on the last day.
  • Nanny OggNanny Ogg Growing Old DisgracefullyPosts: 10,874 Pool Forum Veteran
    I recently won the league twice on my alternative account to win pool cash, I only needed about 700m to win 100 notes last week and even less the first time around to win 50.

    1b winnings is quite high for that league usually, I'd normally wait it out and not level up to play the same league again next week.

    As for the levels I played, it was typically Dubai/Shanghai until I made a few more million and then I played Paris/Bangkok and even Seoul if needed.

    You get days where somebody will come out of nowhere and top the league so I usually wait until mid week to see what I need to reach and keep within distance and then take a big lead on Sunday evening.

    Keep within distance and then smash it on the last day.


    LOL ModyBOSS must have been pulling his hair out on Sunday night LOL
  • Slartibartfast6Slartibartfast6 Posts: 463 Pool Pro
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    This is where I'm at right now, the highest I've ever sat. I would assume it's because my job is exceptionally boring lately and I've been playing a lot more in effort to keep myself from eating a bullet.
    Even if I abandoned my career altogether right now, I'm pretty certain I won't win the top spot. I lack the ambition & a big enough set of berries to risk it...
    I'm a little unclear about leagues so here's some questions;
    -Is there only one of each league tier per platform?
    (I realize PC & Mobile leagues are separate entities)
    -i.e.: Is my "Diamond" league the only one of its kind on mobile?
    -Or, are there multiple mobile diamond leagues & I'm just part of one of em?
    I'm on pins & needles waiting for the feedback....
  • VijayGunnersVijayGunners Posts: 879 Pool Expert
    And sometimes you get players like this topping the league, nobody got near 30m as it was a lower tier
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  • Nanny OggNanny Ogg Growing Old DisgracefullyPosts: 10,874 Pool Forum Veteran
    edited August 2017
    And sometimes you get players like this topping the league, nobody got near 30m as it was a lower tier
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    That's exactly the sort of account that should be reported to GeorgeSweeper in a private message...
    http://8ballpoolforum.miniclip.com/discussion/26604/reporting-suspicious-activity#latest
  • VijayGunnersVijayGunners Posts: 879 Pool Expert
    Nanny Ogg wrote: »
    And sometimes you get players like this topping the league, nobody got near 30m as it was a lower tier
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    That's exactly the sort of account that should be reported to GeorgeSweeper in a private message...
    http://8ballpoolforum.miniclip.com/discussion/26604/reporting-suspicious-activity#latest

    Done :)
  • Carlos TalesCarlos Tales Posts: 1,467 Pool Champion
    Is that a serious question Slart?? Surely not!! You've only got to look at the world leaderboard to realise what you've asked is a little silly.
  • Nanny OggNanny Ogg Growing Old DisgracefullyPosts: 10,874 Pool Forum Veteran
    edited August 2017
    Carl why is his question silly ?
    Forgive me but I don't understand and am only guessing here, but his question relates to tier leagues.
    I think I'm right in saying that World, Country ( one per country ) and Friends leagues are all singular with just one overarching league each, whereas the tier leagues consist of a multiple number of leagues for each tier ?
    Please correct me if I'm wrong though, it wouldn't be the first time and certainly won't be the last LOL
  • Carlos TalesCarlos Tales Posts: 1,467 Pool Champion
    If there was only one diamond league then you would see the highest placed diamond rank players in the world league the top of the diamond league. Currently there are over 200 diamond rank players with over 20 billion weekly winnings. The table Slart showed has the leader below 10 billion.

    Also in my previous post I explained how a new league will start for players logging in for the first time half way through the week.

  • Nanny OggNanny Ogg Growing Old DisgracefullyPosts: 10,874 Pool Forum Veteran
    Ok gotcha thanks. I never even thought about there being loads of leagues until I won one myself and one of my friends also won in the same tier but in a different league LOL
  • Carlos TalesCarlos Tales Posts: 1,467 Pool Champion
    There are only 300 players in each league and the bottom placed players will most likely show as 0 winnings. Played once or twice and lost and not played again I suspect.
  • Slartibartfast6Slartibartfast6 Posts: 463 Pool Pro
    @Carl Tales
    All feedback is valuable, especially when it's been solicited.
    I've given the leaderboards which I had otherwise foolishly ignored that "one look". I would have to agree that reviewing it is undeniably paramount to comprehensively understanding this here video game.
    Thanks to this resource and infinitely more so, thanks to your selflessly insightful observations, I can now confidently claim to be perfectly clear on this matter. Although I'll always humbly welcome your support, I encourage you to move on to concerns that are undoubtedly more deserving of your response. I admire the ease with which you seem to shoulder your apparent obligation to help so I feel compelled to apologize for my silly behavior. It admittedly reflects nothing beyond self serving disregard for your time and has resulted in a regretful waste of your efforts.

    Warm Regards,
    Sean

  • Nanny OggNanny Ogg Growing Old DisgracefullyPosts: 10,874 Pool Forum Veteran
  • Carlos TalesCarlos Tales Posts: 1,467 Pool Champion
    If you had taken the time to read my first post where I did attempt to help the OP on how to win leagues instead of just my later posts then perhaps you wouldn't of asked such a basic question.



  • SunidhifanSunidhifan Earthbound....Posts: 6,405 Pool Forum VIP
    edited August 2017
    Carl Tales wrote: »
    I disagree with Sun. (Not for the first time LOL). Only the Diamond league is relatively difficult to win and would require at least 10 billion winnings to even compete. But as for the other leagues they can be won far more easily if you can increase your winnings quick enough to play at least the Paris tier.

    Yes from your example it's unlucky you have a die hard gamer who's reached 1b from a new account in 4 days. That is rare to see in the gold league.

    My best tip for you to win the platinum league next week providing you can win at least 50% of your games would be to start playing (log in for the first time) half way through the week. You will be placed in a new league from the day you first log in. Then start playing Dubai and go to Paris as early as possible.

    I won the platinum league once by playing 2 games in Paris. I only levelled up once so the following week I was still In platinum and able to do it again. I did this over a few weeks and soon had over 500 pool cash

    I will have to acquiesce to your knowledge of the Leagues and how they work.... ;) ..I personally have no clue about them at all or how they work.... :* ...I get my 750 shiny golden pieces of fecal matter for getting first place in my "friends league" every single week and never ask any questions....lol..... I do not have any idea at all which 'friends' they are referring to, nor have I ever actively signed up to any league of any kind.... :|

    But I will still defend my primary premise made in my post......

    Nothing worth doing can be, or is done 'easily' in life...you have to work for what you want"

    I based my response on the numerous threads and comments I have seen on here over the years regarding Leagues and other competitions...and how they are almost always won by suspected nefarious activity....with the primary suspected culprits being so-called "Team Players" .....

    But even with all of that aside...the OP author stated he had 185K at the time...I presumed he was referring to his shiny golden pieces of fecal matter in his possession....I also presumed he was the player "Harry" in 16th place with 660,900 of them.....the top player (and again, I have no knowledge whatsoever about trends or typical numbers seen within leagues) has 1.07 billion.....
    Taking all of that into consideration, I stand by my assertion that, in this particular instance as shown, he would have to put in those kind of hours and level of play in the upper tiers (Paris is number 11 tier out of 14 tiers....in my assessment, that makes it a high tier) to accomplish his desired goal of reaching first place.....
    If he only has 185,000 on hand with which to play, an amount far insufficient to enter in or 'easily' reach the Paris tier....he would have to play at a 'high level' of playing skill to get the amount needed to start playing in Paris......

    From my experience in the game, the majority of players are not at the skill level you apparently are ..... where winning more than 60% of your games is as you say, an easy task...(Established players with already developed high skills creating a new account from scratch [such as in some of your challenges put forth] do not count in this circumstance imo as they are not the "normal/average" player in lower leagues)....without a bankroll of millions, the average player will take quite a while to get the required amount needed to safely play in higher tiers making the risk/reward equation more realistic for them.... ;)

    But again, I have little to no knowledge about the leagues, legendary cues or other fluff associated primarily with mobile or PC versions....not saying they are a bad thing either, just that I personally have no interest in the "gamer" aspects....I just like playing pool..... ;) :)

    Edit: And I have to agree with @Slartibartfast6 in both appreciating and respecting your feedback .....as I have said many times in many places, everyone is entitled to their own opinion...no matter how wrong they may be.... ;) ...not saying mine are always right either, it applies to me just as much as anyone else..... :)

    Edit 2: Just for kicks, I took this screenie....lol...I got a LOT of work to do....Hahahahahaha

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  • Carlos TalesCarlos Tales Posts: 1,467 Pool Champion
    Sun - you first admit you know nothing about leagues then go on to say everyone has an opinion no matter how wrong they may be. You have said this a few times regarding my posts so I can only assume you are implying my opinion is always wrong! Therefore I will prove the advice I gave to the OP is good advice by winning at least 2 leagues by logging in to my alt accounts for the first time today and tomorrow and won I g a relatively low amount of winnings. I will post screenshots on Monday regardless if I'm successful or not.

    Regardless whether the OP can play Paris or not if you had read my post properly you would of seen I put that he needs to play Dubai first before going to Paris. That wouldn't take too much effort for anyone with a coin ballance of 185k.

    The question posted was how to win leagues. I gave my answer on how it can be done. Your opinion TBH counts for very little considering you have never won a league other than your friends and therefore have no real ideas on how it's done so just replying to the OP saying it's a no hope situation for him and he would need to play for hours every day was far from helpful.
  • G11gamingG11gaming Rock out :BPosts: 4,555 Pool Champion
    Sunidhifan wrote: »
    Carl Tales wrote: »
    I disagree with Sun. (Not for the first time LOL).

    But again, I have little to no knowledge about the leagues, legendary cues or other fluff associated primarily with mobile or PC versions....not saying they are a bad thing either, just that I personally have no interest in the "gamer" aspects....I just like playing pool..... ;) :)






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    You me and others are gamers whether you accept it or not, you are playing a game of pool with millions world wide, that my friend makes you a " gamer "

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  • SunidhifanSunidhifan Earthbound....Posts: 6,405 Pool Forum VIP
    edited August 2017
    Carl Tales wrote: »
    Sun - you first admit you know nothing about leagues then go on to say everyone has an opinion no matter how wrong they may be. You have said this a few times regarding my posts so I can only assume you are implying my opinion is always wrong! Therefore I will prove the advice I gave to the OP is good advice by winning at least 2 leagues by logging in to my alt accounts for the first time today and tomorrow and won I g a relatively low amount of winnings. I will post screenshots on Monday regardless if I'm successful or not.

    Regardless whether the OP can play Paris or not if you had read my post properly you would of seen I put that he needs to play Dubai first before going to Paris. That wouldn't take too much effort for anyone with a coin ballance of 185k.

    The question posted was how to win leagues. I gave my answer on how it can be done. Your opinion TBH counts for very little considering you have never won a league other than your friends and therefore have no real ideas on how it's done so just replying to the OP saying it's a no hope situation for him and he would need to play for hours every day was far from helpful.

    Lol....A couple of interesting things I would like to point out here....

    You like to select certain portions of a post and focus on how you interpret what is said.... in other words, how you 'infer' what is said..... ;) ...in doing so, you also ignore what is said....
    First as to the opinions part...and how everyone has them and they are all right or wrong... it is simply a matter of what is 'implied' and what is 'inferred' on any given statement....I very clearly stated that the adage applies to me just as much as anyone else...so therefore, I have not 'implied' that you are always wrong...simply that I disagree....which was what you posted at the very beginning of your first response to my initial post:

    Carl Tales wrote: »
    I disagree with Sun. (Not for the first time LOL).


    Therefore, I can 'imply' that you always say I am wrong...which you continued to say throughout your response quoted above....so the shoe fits both ways....eh... :* ... Bottom line...I did not imply, you inferred....there is a difference.....

    Next, you say two things that I will refute....
    1. You say that I did not read your post properly regarding how he had to play Dubai first which wouldn't take too much effort with his given coin balance...How is a person with 185K coins supposed to play in Dubai (two levels below Paris) which has an entry fee of 500K?.....that math does not compute for me.... ;) he would have to play at lower levels first with a high win percentage just to get to that point.....and even once he reaches the balance required to enter Dubai, one denial made against him would deplete his entire balance forcing him to start over.... so I stand by my advice as it relates to him (or at least my presumption of his status, not being an established highly skilled and confident player)
    2. Which brings us to point 2. You state you will prove your advice was good by using your alt accounts (one of which has a relatively low amount of winnings) and perform the tasks and post the screenshots on Monday....Now I say, who has not read the others post?...lol...I very clearly and with absolutely no ambiguity stated that it is my belief that this subject (as posed by the OP author who I presume to be an up and coming player) does not apply to an established and skilled players creating/ using alts to accomplish the task....my response was addressed to the category of player I believe the OP author to be....again, an up and comer with neither the balance or the high-level playing skills and confidence in them needed to accomplish it....so you doing it again is meaningless ...IMO.... My advice was addressed to a relative newcomer....not established players.... :*
    It is akin to Ronnie O'Sullivan telling Timmy Newcomer in Kansas that winning a tournament is easy...and that he will prove it by entering one next week and win it...so all Timmy has to do is the same thing...... :D

    As to whether my opinion counts very little based on my never having won a league and therefore have no real ideas on how it is done....that is just a bit silly.....lol....Everyone knows how it is done....it is beyond simple.....Play at a high skill level and win more than you lose, move up the tiers as soon as possible and continue to win thereby increasing your total weekly winnings.....to steal a previously misquoted phrase recently made by another member ..."it is not rocket science".....It simply requires skill, confidence and the desire to accomplish.... I have no desire to do it, therefore, never have...not due to a lack of skill....lol...I know I am not the best player of the game...have never made any such claim...anywhere....but I am far above average, of that I have no doubt or qualms in stating.... ;)

    I based my response upon the presumption that the OP author is an up and coming player who does not yet possess the skillsets and confidence required to accomplish his goal but does have the desire to do it.......therefore, without the above triad (skills, confidence, and desire) being present, I think my response is more realistic in relation to him than yours....
    For an up and coming player to win their weekly league, they will need to play for many hours to develop the skills and confidence needed as well as increasing their bankroll and total winnings required to perform the task.....Which is, as I also stated clearly in my last post, especially pertinent to the OP authors situation as posted.....lol...he has a total weekly winnings displayed as 660K...versus the top player having 1.02 billion.....He has a very, very, long way to go to catch up, and realistically in my view, he has no chance at all in doing so in this situation......I would presume again that the current leader will not be sitting idly by watching and waiting for him or anyone else to catch and pass him.....reality rules .... :p

    Our biggest difference in style and mindset is directly related to what @G11gaming stated regarding 'gamers'.....lol....we have different definitions of what 'gamers' are ....

    First off @G11gaming , I did not say anywhere in the post that I am not a "gamer" ....what I said was that I am not interested in the 'gamer aspects' , and that I simply love playing pool.....let me expound on that a bit....
    I like to play the game of pool....something I have done for more than 52 years now....in real life....and I was pretty highly competitive in both skills and desire...yet never good enough to turn pro or semi-pro even...although I did do a bit of 'hustling' here and there and was pretty successful in various leagues and bar/pool hall efforts that I participated in...
    However, starting in 2009, I began to lose my vestibular function which continued to worsen over the ensuing months and then years...thus robbing me of my ability to maintain balance and remain a functioning biped.... It also did not help much that my initial contact with physicians regarding the issue where met with not just skepticism, but outright saying that I was faking it...for some reason....But eventually I was referred to the proper specialists who did properly diagnose my medical condition and informed me that there is no treatment or cure for what I have and that it would only continue to worsen...which it did.... to the point now that I am confined to a wheelchair.....not a very conducive position from which to play real life pool....

    My son, knowing how much I loved pool, found this little game of QuickFire Pool online at Miniclip in July of 2010 and turned me onto it....I immediately fell in love with it and started to play it a lot.....They then announced the upcoming debut of the multi-player version to be released in October of that year.....which I commenced playing on the release date with fervor and abandon...and initially, based on the incredible physics, graphics, and simple premise of the game, I was very competitive and eager to win at all costs....resulting in my becoming the first official Legend, then Double Legend followed by Triple Legend in the game.... I was at the top of the world leader board for over two years....Then, for a variety of reasons, both health-wise and mental state of mind...I started to become bored with the game....and created Indirect (as it applies to MiniClip Pool, not the original real-life versions of Carom/Three-cushion or 8 Ball style called Honolulu) for amusement amongst the forum crowd I played the most with....and that took on a life of it's own...far and above anything I envisioned, intended or expected.....and for me personally, is the only style I enjoy anymore....

    Sorry for the novelette.....I did not write it to elicit sympathy (as I have been accused of in the past) but only as background and to clarify my stance and views on things related to MiniClip Pool....

    So yes, @G11gaming and @Carl Tales both....technically speaking, I am a 'gamer' in that I enjoy playing the game of pool..... but in my definition of what a modern day 'gamer' is, in the virtual world of gaming, it is someone who enjoys playing virtual world games with the primary goal of achieving awards, rewards, levels, titles and accomplishments associated with any given game through development of skills and often 'tricks' included in many games...e.g. 'easter eggs' contained in many video games such as Mario Brothers and many others.....or taking advantage of glitches and/or nefarious methods to achieve said accomplishments...and I am not saying anyone here participates in such nefarious activity, just that such activity does no doubt occur....

    Either way, whether through complete honesty and integrity in game skills ...or by discovering the hidden easter egg features or even by nefarious means....'gamer aspects', the rewards, awards et al no longer interest me.....I simply love to play pool....and all of my posts and comments come from that aspect/view of the game....It is never my intent to denigrate or belittle the efforts of honest and skillful players in their pursuits of said accomplishments and 'gamer aspects'...my apologies if they come across that way...which they apparently do for the two of you at least....I put forth an honest effort to help and assist any and all .. but especially newcomers...highly skilled players do not need my input...and 'gamers' as per my definition, have little need for my input either.....

    I personally have zero interest in the coins (gag), leagues, legendary cues and other aspects since to me, they have nothing to do with pool.....although I will admit they can and do enhance the experience for many....and serve as an indicator of how well any given player can do in the game....but since my lack of interest or concern for such things seems to offend you both so much, I will cease to make comments or responses here in the forum regarding such issues....at least as directed to either one of you..... ;)

    I will however always continue to try and help/educate newcomers to the game and forum in regards to skills and techniques in the game, as well as to rules and decorum applicable to the forum.... :) ....
    I will also continue to denigrate and rid ourselves of both obvious nefarious players, spammers, and trolls...and apologies in advance if it offends you, but as stated recently in @Nanny Ogg 's Ranting thread, I will also continue with floccinaucinihilipilification regarding the shiny golden pieces of fecal matter..... :D

    Tootles for now then....and as always, best of luck in all your endeavors.... :)

    Again, apologies for the long-winded novelette..... ;)


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